Growing Pains star Kirk Cameron was outraged to hear that noted UK physicist Stephen Hawking is not only an atheist but doesn’t believe there’s a heaven or after-life! He likened the belief to “a fairy tale for those who are afraid of the dark.” Evangelist Kirk, who heads an online ministry “Way of the Master” complained that debating the disabled but brilliant Hawking was like “bullying a blind man.” Irate Cameron squealed “Why should anyone believe Hawking if he can’t prove it?” But Kirk, YOU are the one claiming there IS a God and heaven – the burden of proof is on the one making the claim. We’re LISTENING…..
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Now, which one is Hawking?
Kirk will use the usual “because the bible says so” excuse and hide behind that sort of thing. He has no proof and is downright nuts with his fanatical religious beliefs.
Science!
Although the idea of an all supreme being in command of the universe whom incidentally looks like a white human man and talked to a human at one time via a burning bush does sound hard to disprove.
Why bother, lets go kill other humans in the name of God. It’s what he wants.
Kirk, you just going into the earth and rot.
As long as they are not hurting each, who cares. Cameron really never had a choice in his religious beliefs. His parents chose them for him. Hawking on the other hand, and to my knowledge, chose to believe his theories about the universe. Each to his own, I guess. Unless you are hurting others, of course.
If Cameron’s right,he’s the winner and you all lose IN A BIG WAY! Even if you win the argument, YOU LOSE!
GOD please BLESS Stephen Hawking’s ignorant soul. I believe in God. God has blessed me (and you) in many countless ways. Read your bible. Go to church.
From the bottom of my heart, God bless each and everyone that is on this site.
I believe in God! I don’t think were like plants we die and that’s it. Think about how life started and look around at the universe, clues! How do you think the universe started if it went for God?? What an awful life, if you don’t have faith, how empty…
Janer loves to stir up the pot. I have one comment Mr Cameron and his Sister should be on the FBI threat list.
Religion is like a penis….
It’s fine to have one.
It’s fine to be proud of it.
But please don’t whip it out in public and start waving it around,
And PLEASE don’t try to shove it down Anyone’s throat.
Thank you.
Lol @ Pit Bull
Pitt B LOL
Note Kirk talks God, not religion. You are confusing topics.
I believe in God and if Janet chooses to believe she descended from the apes I’m fine with that.
Backing right up out of this thread …
god-god-gaddamnit, JEEESUSCHRIST: whatthefuck do you mean?
Damn it Janet, I love you! We godless girls tell it like it is, we don’t believe in the unreal because its what’s expected or popular.
If there is no God then what is the point of life? If there is no God then serial killers don’t rot in hell which is kinda disappointing…
All religions divide.
But which one has it right?
Scientologist? J.W’s? Catholic or Muslim? Buddhists or Hindu’s?
The Scientologist god pays well. I like money gods.
Angry, judgemental, vengeful gods are off my list of favourites though. That’s pretty much all of them isn’t it?
Angry god bad.
Money god gooood.
PitBull, you’ve made my day!
Janet, thank for posting this. I agree with you 100%! Since I left the US in 2004, I’m shocked to realise how unique US is in its divisiveness around religion. Stephen Hawking is such an amazing genius, it would be Kirk acting the part of the blind man being bullied.
This country was founded, in part, to worship as we choose. Why it is so “in vouge” to trash people who choose to practice a faith is beyond me. Janet, it makes you look small to trash everyone who is religious simply because you don’t like Kirk’s recent comments.
Stephen Hawking has been blessed with a fabulous mind, but in an unhealthy body. Despite his physical failings, I doubt he is capable of being bullied.
For further clarification on this subject, see:
First Corinthians, Chapter 15, vs. 51-58.
First Thessalonians, Chapter 4, vs. 14-18
The Revelation Chapter 4, vs. 1
Hawkins is a very sick man, obviously mental case and is mad God didn’t tell him everything about the Universe and Science and heal him because He doesn’t believe in HIM. Loser!
“Pit BuLL LOVER” Great analogy.
Kirk is an idiot.
I was taught to never talk about 3 things; politics, religion or sex because everyone will have very different views and it’s not worth arguing about but Pit Bull’s quote is the funniest thing I have ever heard. Next time someone starts up on religion on me, that is what I will say LOL.
Neither side can prove anything. Only the dead know for sure, and they’re not talking!
By the way, and while we’re on the topic of religion, if the world does in fact end tomorrow, it has been an honor and a privilege to post with you all.
Kirk Cameron trying to argue with Stephen Hawking reminds me of the old adage, “Don’t take a knife to a gunfight.” Especially if it’s a dull knife.
Christine don’t make me pull out my awesome religion and wave it at you!
Patrick: LOL. I jumped in here, ONLY because the subject is what it is, otherwise I would have kept my fingers shut.
(you realize of course, and rightly so, that you are the (*) here!!)
^^^Uh, on second thought, you might be tied with Pit BuLL LOVER.
Natalie — yes, only the dead know for sure. That being said, check out the Biography Channel’s:
I Survived…Beyond and Back
People are interviewed who DIED. They were flat lining…outta here…clinically dead, adios. Their stories are beyond amazing. The beauty they encountered once their hearts stopped beating (in one case for 57 minutes and 21 zaps with the d-fib) will have the toughest out there teary eyed. One woman wrote a book about it as it was such a life altering experience. The man on his motorcycle who got crushed by a truck LOVED being on the other side…he did not want to be back here. In fact, he said, “Now when I hear about someone who died, I think: lucky bastard!” Yeah, the beauty is something these folks cannot put into words. So Stevie Wonderfully Brilliant Hawking, yes, you are intelligent, but it looks like you’re wrong on this deal. The dead have spoken!!!
Oh ha ha…..my screen name fits perfectly with this deal.
Hee!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good one, dee cee!
All you nonbelievers in God and Heaven had better be right, because if you aren’t, I hope you like the temperature REALLY hot!
I find the thought that there may be nothing after we die to be absolutely terrifying.
My friend in New Zealand wrote and said the world didn’t end, so you can all relax
Scientists have determined that the so-called “seeing the light” etc phenonenon that people describe when they temporarily lose vital signs is really the brains shutting down to the loss of oxygen. I was taught in nursing school never to speak about a person who has just died in FRONT OF THE “BODY” because the hearing is the last to go and because the brain leterally takes at least 5 minutes to stop fuctioning, a person can HEAR YOU speaking about them even tho their heart has stopped and there are no vital signs. So never stand above a patient and say “He’s DEAD” because he can probably hear you.
I go with the scientists in that the brain is an awesome instrument and does very intriguing things when the neurons are dying.
REta, scientists have now determined that just because the power goes out does not mean the power has disappeared from the matter of the universe. Gives one pause for thought.
Blind Items say KC got caught cheating by his wife. GUESS who he was cheating with?
A MAN>
Reta….yes, I’ve heard that for a long time now. These people’s stories are quite different. That one gal was flat lining for nearly one hour…she was miles beyond floating over her body. All these people were. And all their stories were different. The common element: beauty…unspeakable beauty.
Speaking of death, what time is the rapture today?
The brain is a pretty complicated piece of equipment to be designed by “accident”. If life is just some big accident why are living things so complicated? Why aren’t we all just simple bacteria? It seems the more complicated organisms are the more likely it would be that is was somehow “designed” by some force bigger than ourselves. No one can really explain the trigger that is evolution or how it all began so I’m keeping an open mind. Mr. Hawkings is a brilliant man but why are we accepting everything he says as Gospel? Even Einstein made mistakes.
Polly, I’m not accepting ANYBODY’s views as gospel. Let alone a book written by MEN way past the time when Jesus walked the earth. “GOD” didn’t “write” the bible, humen men did, and in fact a woman wrote one of the “books” of the bible which was removed from it by the Catholic church.
There are many many parts of the bible and stories in it which are in other books which came before it, including the Koran. Verbal stories passed down for generations in several parts of the world echo some of those stories, so how can this one book say it is the “word of “God”.
Look at the area where Jesus came from. He was NOT a white man as depicted now for centuries in paintings and assumed by most Christians as what Jesus looked like. How many MILLIONS of years have people been on this planet, yet Christians believe and follow a book written by MEN around two thousand years ago. THINK of how NEW that book is in the scheme of things. People can write anything they want, and they DID, nad who was to stop then. Other people came along andchanged it, edited it, and removed parts of it. It is in NO WAY the original work it WAS, and your JESUS did not WRITE it, he was DEAD. Those men could say anything they wanted and claim it was the word of Jesus or God, but that doesn’t make it so.
I think you people who blindly believe this stuff have given up your brains from free thinking, and most likely were brain-washed from birth or childhood.
Look at the peopl who are terrorists, they are brought up to believe that stuff and that giving their life for that cause is the ultimate glory. They are blind to any other thoughts or beliefs, and are just hopelessly brainwashed.
It’s all the same, just differnt beliefs or religions, but people who give up their brains to blindly follow what they were told to believe from childhood are BRAINWASHED.
Reta, you are an ugly and hateful person on the inside. Let alone you’re batshit crazy which we all can see.
We had an earthquake here at 7, one hour past the “rapture time”, it freaked us out for a minute I can tell you
Palermo, that tremor was just Reta plopping her fat ass in the computer chair.
You can’t be intelligent and believe in god. It’s that simple. If you believe, you are stupid or gullible or hopeful but NOT intelligent.
There is no damn god its’ a bullshit story anyone with half a brain knows that. Some sort of creation but its name sure isn’t Allah or God.
The bible is a tool of patriarchy and control a hornets nest of molesters and abusers intent on making life hell for women and children. The bible benefits men. What are you stupid? Religon impregnates women and stifles children.
KIRK CAMERON IS A CLOSET CASE you sheeple are blind your average H’wood gawd lover is a FREAK-MEL GIBSON.
Plus Janet Charlton is a racist homophobe.
Amazing rant.
Nina and Denise: I agree with thee.