Filed Under: Ving Rhames
174119__kojak_l.jpg There are plenty of gay shenanigans in Adam Sandler's currently filming movie "I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry." It's about firemen who pretend they're gay to get health benefits. Hulking Ving Rhames plays a macho fireman of indeterminate sexual preference, and his character was supposed to give a big kiss to another guy. But Ving could NOT bring himself to do it. Kissing a guy freaked him out. Producers solved the problem by grabbing an extra - a tallish girl with short hair - and they dressed her up in men's clothes. Ving was perfectly happy to kiss the girl in drag - and the girl was thrilled because the bigger role meant she got her SAG card.!
Posted by Janet Charlton on December 3, 2006 10:11 PM
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Moronic homphobe.
He can play killers and rapists, but not gay.
Wake up, Ving, it's not 1950 anymore.
Moronic idiotic homphobe.

Margo Channing


uh.........and this is gossip?

Dam near anYone can get a SAG card.

Boo.

Anonymous


earth shattering

Anonymous


That is just plain rude. Why would he take on the role if he's not able to defend his character?

It's another reason why straight actors should stop playing gay roles. All of them.

my take


What I find interesting is he played a drag queen in a movie with Alfre Woodard and didn't seem to have a problem being a divaish and girly. That the man would put on wigs, makeup, gowns & heels but kissing a guy is not acceptable. Strange......

Richard


Funny that just 40 years ago this man would have to enter from the back door,yet hes afraid people will think he uses his?
OYE VEY......

Hedda Bopper


What the hell is wrong with you people? He doesn't want to kiss a man. Most straight men don't. How the hell does that make him a homophobe? Good lord

SoopDawg


Most str8 men dont wipe their asses,whats your point?Hes an actor the asshole is paid to act,if he cant do it,find someone at any ol soup kitchen that could take this scums place

Mary Queen of Denial


I want to hear him speak on this in an interview himself. I find it hard to believe he will go as far as to play a drag queen in Holiday Heart, meaning wear make-up, lipstick, panty hose, etc. and basically engulf homosexuality in a character, but he wont kiss a man in a scene where he protrays a sexually confused man? Thumbs down if this is true.

Anonymous


He's a major closet case like Tyrese, Jamie Foxx and a variety of Black actors/rappers.

He doth protests too much about homosexuality is usually a self hating homo.

Art Chic


Good for him!!!!!! Stick to your guns and principles.

Anonymous


All sorts of accomodations are made for actors, this one isn't any different and it doesn't make him a homophobe. Stop being so sensative people, there are bigger issues to deal with in the world.

MsT4U


It's called acting, folks--acting. Just because a straight actor plays a gay character doesn't mean that person has to kiss someone of the same sex. And if somebody doesn't wanna kiss somebody, they don't have to. And for those making ridiculous comparisons, when someone plays a killer, are they actually kiling somebody? When someone plays a rapist, are they actually raping somebody? Oh, so I guess if an actor plays a pedophile, they're supposed to french kiss or fondle a kid?? C'mon, get a damn grip!

Anonymous


GO VING, HE'S A TRUE ACTOR, DONT CARE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON SCREEN BUT HE DONT HAVE TO DO THE ACTUAL KISSING TO A FAG.

Anonymous


MsT4U,
are a major disaster waiting to corrupt the impressionable minds w/your
barbaric, immature, inhumane, and proverted thoughts about black people. Please keep your thoughts in your head becuz it tells who you are. A sad sick element.

Annette


Please Homosexual people don't get mad at the man if he doesn't want to kiss another man! That is his choice! Why do you care?? Everyone is not walking in the Gay Parade..Get over it!

Anonymous


OMG, that is the man choice. Who cares if he wants to or don't want to kiss a man. We all have our boundaries. We also have a right to enforce them without getting the third degree!! Get a grip we have bigger issues at hand...hello we are in the middle of a war with people losing their lives and some are you ranting about someone else personal choices.

Miss Hill


the love hater,

40 years ago he wouldn't have a choice like he does now. Don't hate because now Ving, a fine actor I might a add probably has more choices in his life and career at this point than you will have your entire life. Do your thing Ving.

Anonymous


Why does this even matter???? Next story!

Anonymous


Well if Ving didnt want to kiss a man then thats on him...as for his part in Holiday Heart(which was an excellent movie) he didnt actually have a love seen with a man you would know that if u seen the movie. Just because he doesnt want to kiss a man doesnt make him homophobic either..Not just as an actor but as a person you have to draw the line somewhere.

MissKitty


Big difference between kissing a man and dressing in drag. I don't believe this makes him a homophobe. Because someone doesnt want to participate in homosexual behavior (kiss someone of the same sex) it doesnt make them homophobic. What is wrong with you people!!

Bignasty


Ever heard the expression, eat shit and die? well why would someone want to do that, because they're an actor, not! Ving has no idea where this dudes mouth has been, and if he dosen't look out for himself healthwise who will? Listen dressing up like a chick, and kissing a another man like he's a chick is two different thing's. Ving, do your thing! Act, actor!

Anonymous


Leave this man alone, there is enough gays going around, I think its good that he doesn't want to kiss a man and I don't blame him, I have 2 boys and I pray that they don't be gay.

Anonymous


Leave Ving alone. Not everyone wants some gay person's tongue in their mouths. Sounds perfectly understandable to me.

Anonymous


He is an actor hired to do a job and that job includes kissing another male actor.

If he didn't want to do it, he shouldn't have taken the role.

He'll play a killer, or a rapist, or a pedophile, or a drug dealer, or any other scum, but God forbid he play gay, kiss a man and believe that anyone will think, or care, that he's gay.

Moron. Idiot. Homophobe.

Margo Channing


For the recond Ving Rhames played a Drag Queen that was married to a man in the movie Holiday Heart.

K


THANK YOU!!!! I am sooo sick and tired of gays wanting their rights,,, 'CRY BABIES!!!'

Stop being sooo overly sensitive,,, gay men go through more changes than any woman I know... You all need to get a grip!! Be a STRAIGHT MAN!!! Stop whinning!!!!

Ving chooses what he wants , how he wants and why he wants,,, it's his life,, either you'll watch and support what he does,, or simply not watch it... It's not a big deal!! Get over it!!!!

Anonymous


Leave Ving alone!
He has played gay roles no big deal! good actors should be able to portray all walks of life! But it doesn't mean they should have to bust "Hell" wide open by actually participating in a sick abnormal act like being intimate with the same sex!

not hell bound for "that"


I would rather e'll play a killer, or a rapist, or a pedophile, or a drug dealer, or any other scum than kiss another man. If that makes me homophobic, than i guess i am.

If you're not willing to take one in the poop shoot gays, think your homophobic.

Bignasty


are you posters gay or something? dressing as a woman in a role is TOTALLY different from having to kiss a man for ANY reason. Do you all say the same thing when a female doesn't want to kiss another female? He's NOT gay so why kiss a man? Acting doesn't involve that much detail. damn y'all are really funny about this one.

Anonymous


he'sa tough guy he never should have signed up for that part in a movie,suck it up,stay a tough guy!!



Get off Ving's tip. He doesn't have to kiss a guy if he doesn't want to. Two men kissing is absolutely disgusting, foul,nasty, vulgar, ugly,horrible, and just down right wrong. There are some real racists on this site leaving comments too. Now back door that.

boss


u gays r complaining about Ving not kissing a man and that a straight man shouldnt play gay roles. well i guess that gay men shouldnt play straight roles either.

no straight guy wants to kiss another man, when the man is a killer he doesnt actually kill people. when he plays a gay man it doesnt mean he has to kiss other men.

JG


No one is saying Mr. Rames doesn't have the choice, of course if he doesn't want to kiss another man he doesnt have to. However, he should accept the criticism that will come along with it since he is taking the role of a gay man but only wants to portray a part of being gay that is comfortable to him and not his character; Ving Rames sexuality has nothing to do with the role he is playing, period. It's always outside influences, i.e. media speculation and the audience that make assumptions about the actor's sexuality in relation to a character he plays. As far as there being a difference in playing a drag queen (Holiday Heart) and a gay man, that is obvious. However, For someone to take 2 roles in which they portray a gay man, considering holiday heart was years ago, it would be a forseen possiblity that cinema has changed and homosexual scenes are not uncommonplace for gay characters. Im sure this movie will be good either way, but he should just stay away from these type of characters. Then again, this could all be a publicity stunt...

Anonymous


so glad he didn't kiss that guy...sounds like a role for clay aiken and the guy from nsync.

nottobegay


What a bunch of homophobes on a RANT!!!!!! Just keep your noses & tired selves in church where they belong!!!!!

GEETZ


All the fags here need to kiss each other enjoy it and then think that damn he got paid like a fat rat and didnt have to do what you just did for free and also it aint 40 years ago so get over it you racist pricks

getalife


Bignasty,
First, you're an idiot.
Second, no one has suggested that Ving have anal sex with a man on film. His character was supposed to kiss a man on film.
Big difference, idiot.

Margo Channing


I am by him 100%. That kiss would take him into a whole number ball game. I would have done the same thing. You have to respect his decision. He's not GAY.

Keshia


What is wrong with the gay community? They're so defensive about every nitpicking thing. I wouldn't kiss a female either if I was an actress. It goes against my principals and I know lots of gay people.

Lilla


Margo go suck a tit!

Lets all go kiss a man, to make the homosexuals and Margo be happy. I think this is what she wants. Lets stop treating the homosexuals like porcelain. If you kiss another man, wheter your a actor or not ITS GAY! DEAL WITH IT!!!!!! Thats why ving didnt want to do it.,

bignasty


When you say he is a killer, rapist, drug dealer; he is not actually killing, raping or selling any drugs is he?!?

So if he played a child molester, should he actually molest a child... of course not.

I know I wouldnt want to kiss a dude either, but I could act gay in a film.

Anonymous


lol at the fags on here...he don wanna kiss man thats his decision...SMH at homos catchin feelings..lol...

Anonymous


49 previous posts about this.

Wow.

Ishouldntbedoingthis


I'm guessing the fags on here want to see him kissing a guy? Something for them to beat off too.

Silly fags...

Anonymous


Oh please Ving doesn't want to kiss a man on the big screen because he has gotten so sloppy lately about his own homosexuality that now hes afraid the truth is going to come out. I have been to parties where this man gets so plastered he comes on to anyone with a dick, specially latinos, and then the idiot can't take no for an answe, like just because he's in movies I'm supposed to bend over and spread them. By the way, he is quite fem in person too, just get two drinks in him and watch the dragqueen come out. Him and Tracy Morgan both. I swear the next time Tracy Morgan Grabs my ass and tells me he goes both ways I'm going to punch the asshole in the face, did that to me twice At the late night restaurant Cafeteria in NYC wher he has been kicked out of a couple of times for the same shit. I'm not for outing celebrities but these two asshole should be shot.

Ash


Oh please Ving doesn't want to kiss a man on the big screen because he has gotten so sloppy lately about his own homosexuality that now hes afraid the truth is going to come out. I have been to parties where this man gets so plastered he comes on to anyone with a dick, specially latinos, and then the idiot can't take no for an answe, like just because he's in movies I'm supposed to bend over and spread them. By the way, he is quite fem in person too, just get two drinks in him and watch the dragqueen come out. Him and Tracy Morgan both. I swear the next time Tracy Morgan Grabs my ass and tells me he goes both ways I'm going to punch the asshole in the face, did that to me twice At the late night restaurant Cafeteria in NYC wher he has been kicked out of a couple of times for the same shit. I'm not for outing celebrities but these two asshole should be shot.

Ash


if he didn't want 2 he shouldn't have 2 be forced all b/c he's an actor.

angelface


Holiday Heart.... thats all i can say!

Kris Dil


hes not afraid of what people think...hes playing a fag. But he like, myself, doesn't want their face on another man's face!...end of story!

oatsuzn


You all are stupid!

Noneya


I would pay to see ving.....Hanging from a tree,worthless monkey

Mrs Ving Ape


HOW YOU DOIN?

Anonymous


Ving is real man - Not a queer !!! Good for you Ving, because Hollywood has turned out our best black men...

Nonnie


This man has pride. He won't lower his standards. Just because gay people think nothing of it to be perverse, a straight man won't think of it. Gays are so delusional and eventually the world will will go the way of Sodom.

Pretty in Pink


So can someone please explain to me how a man not wanting to kiss another man is grounds for racist comments? First of all, the man is not homosexual so it is understandable that he doesn't want to kiss another man. Second of all, to all of the idiots who are trying to use Holiday Heart as an excuse for why he should kiss a man. I don't recall him kissing any men in that movie and being a man who dresses in drag is completely different from being a homosexual man. Third of all, if you don't support the man, just don't go see his movies. At no point should the fact that he doesn't want to kiss a man mean that he should "hang from a tree" nor is it grounds for any other racial comment that some poor, ignorant, racist individual wants to make. It is a shame that people who proclaim to be grown and adults are acting so immature over something as frivolous and insignificant as whether or not a person wants to kiss a member of the same sex. Why don't you put that energy towards the war in Iraq, poverty in America, or unemployment? Some people need to mature and get a life.

TQueen


i eat boogers

Anonymous


So what? He didn't want to kiss another man. Why does this tick people off? Says only one thing about him: He's STRAIGHT.

Do you want to begin descriminating against heterosexual actors now?

It was all worked out in a professional manner. This is nothing new. Some actors use doubles/stand ins for leg shots. This is no different.

Anonymous


BigNasty,
Go suck a dick, we know it's what you want.

Kissing a person of the same sex on a movie set does not make you gay.

Stupid is as stupid does.

Margo Channing


All yall gay!! 4 just being offended. Dumbasses

Anonymous


Margo, You lonely whore!

I would rather you suck my dick! Just take your dentures our first!

Ignore the racists, thats how these guys get down.

bignasty


Oh Bignasty, what a lovely offer, but I'll need a pair of tweezers and a magnifying glass to find that little splinter you call a penis.

Plus a heaping dose of pennicillin because God only knows how many manwhores do you every night.

The only thing you have smaller than your penis is your brain.

Kisses

Margo Channing


Honestly, if I were a straight man/actor for the right amount of money I'd definately go there, whats a kiss?? There would be absolutely NO tongue action but a kiss on the lips for a few thousand/millions oh hell yeah

FABULUS FOXX


Honestly, if I were a straight man/actor for the right amount of money I'd definately go there, whats a kiss?? There would be absolutely NO tongue action but a kiss on the lips for a few thousand/millions oh hell yeah

FABULUS FOXX


Sodom and Gomorrah: what pleasure is there getting your BUTTS busted out!! JOKE!!! What does two gay, 75 year old men do for past time? Get anal exams.

teiakiss


Ahh Margo, now with the little penis comments, So original! If I was into Manwhores, i would probably agree with Ving and his Homophobic tendencies.

Dont worry about my penis size, your mom seems to enjoy it and your daddy begs for it.

Its all good!

bignasty


BIG(little)NASTY

"......your mom seems to enjoy it....."

I've loved that joke ever since I heard it in 1947.

You closeted homos are so funny.

I see by your post that you are sexually attracted to Ving....maybe he'll kiss you onscreen and you can cream your little man panties.

Margo Channing


didnt he play a gay man in Holiday Heart? I dont know if he kissed a man but he sure was dressed as a woman in that movie. did anyone see it?

Anonymous


The problem is these faggot child molesting sickoes in Hollywood are forcing there views on the world.And because so many of them are executives they try to black ball you if you don't play ball. I mean let them play with your balls. Homosexuality is wrong and unnatural. Thats why god marks you when you are gay because its unnatural. You can try to rationalize and say you have the right all you want to make decisions in your life. The truth is there are many decisions in life you do not have the right to make. Homosexuality is one. hatred is another. God has commanded us all to be what he birth us to be.Now you can play with that if you want to. These type of images should not even be potrayed in movies. I applaud the brotha for not kissing a man in the mouth. I ponder why he has played gay roles in the past. I guess money comes before morality.

jay


So he didn't want to kiss another dude. So what, regardless of whether or not he did or didn't wanna is and was soley left up to him - Sheesh, so many people are crying foul nowadays - oh and as far as being a closet case or whatever Shakespearean blurb is concerned = wrong...

jusumgoi


Guess I need to have a look around.
Scientology maniacs.

Patrick


"But Ving could NOT bring himself to do it. Kissing a guy freaked him out."

Pathetic. He's no actor of any substance is he.

Anonymous


Jay, you should be shot.

People like you are not needed.

Anonymous


I agree with much of the criticism of Rhames. What a wimp-out ... hey Ving, you want the money, ya gotta do the work !!

But I'm also a bit bemused that no-one has even considered the obnoxiousness of the storyline of the movie this guy is making (or not). Pretending to be gay to get extra benefits they wouldn't otherwise get ? In what universe is this movie set ?! 'Coz it sure ain't this one !! Gays don't even get *basic* rights in the US, let alone extra ones.

This movie is pretty likely a remake of an Australian one made in 2005, with the same absurd (and kinda insulting) premise, that starred Paul Hogan (remember him from "Crocodile Dundee" ? But the movie bombed, if I remember rightly). In recent years here in Oz as well, gay people have been denied basic rights by extraordinary amendments to the law. So the movie was just as offensive here.

Aussie Bob


Ving down. I don't think Ving is ready to face his fears. He couldn't find a job playing a straight role, so he plays his fear-gay. If he was any good playing straight, he would not be in this role. Good actors have a choice of roles, bad actors ask for stand ins, because they can't cut it in most roles. Maybe the girl standing in should do his role, since she is the true actor of the two. Keep her in drag and drag him out of the series. Ving Man Up or Get Out of the Business.

K. Rod, An actor with balls.


They should have fired him for not doing his job. He's a lousy actor anyway and this latest move was particularly unprofessional. He wasn't asked to have actual sex with someone. He was asked to perform a screen kiss. It's pitiful that he wouldn't comply.

p.


Janet, Ving cannot talk at this point since he kissed another man in "Holiday Heart" (2000). Ving played Holiday, a drag performer who befriended Wanda, a drug addict, and Nikki, her precocious daughter, after grieving for the death of his domestic partner, Fisher, a police officer. Ving kissed Benz Antoine, the actor who played Fisher, fully on the lips. Oh puhleeze!!!!

Donald Peebles


Did everyone forget PULP FICTION where Ving got F'd in the az by a guy. it was ok for him to get raped by a guy but now he cant kiss one. its all acting right?

cnyce


Ving Rhames is a scumbag who will play any role (mostly gay) for money. If he's not taking it in the a$$ he's dressed in drag. And anyone who can use this discussion to make racist comments is also a weak cowardly scumbag. Moreover, Hollywood is full of insecure, gay, childmolesting jizz-bags who like to keep the image of blackmen being gay in the public-eye. There are homosexuals in every race on the planet, not just blackmen. So all you chest pounding, closet homos, shut the fu@k up: and the next time your cruising the gay-bars, have a cocktail on me...some guys cock in your tail!!!

Anonymous


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